Rave XVII von Papenheim-Kugelnburg1335–
- Name
- Rave XVII von Papenheim-Kugelnburg
| Birth | estimated as inline with profession (Occu. in FTW) about 1335 25 25 |
| Death of a maternal grandfather | Johann I von Geismar 1335 |
| Marriage | Ida von Asseln — View this family 2 children shown about 1370 (Age 35 years) |
| Birth of a daughter #1 | Grete von Papenheim about 1374 (Age 39 years) |
| Marriage | Meta von Padberg — View this family between 1380 and 1385 (Age 45 years) |
| Birth of a daughter #2 | Ilse von Papenheim-Kugelnburg about 1388 (Age 53 years) |
| Occupation | Ritter (knight) between 1370 and 1418 (Age 35 years) |
| Alfred W. Generation |
| Family with parents |
| father |
Johann Rave von Papenheim Birth: estimated as equal to wife's birth year — about 1310 |
| mother |
Ida von Geismar Birth: estimated a gap of 25 years — about 1310 35 29 |
| himself |
Rave XVII von Papenheim-Kugelnburg Birth: estimated as inline with profession (Occu. in FTW) — about 1335 25 25 |
| Family with Meta von Padberg |
| himself |
Rave XVII von Papenheim-Kugelnburg Birth: estimated as inline with profession (Occu. in FTW) — about 1335 25 25 |
| wife |
Meta von Padberg Birth: estimated as prior to marriage by 25 years — about 1360 25 25 |
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Marriage: between 1380 and 1385 — |
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9 years daughter |
Ilse von Papenheim-Kugelnburg Birth: estimated a gap of 25 years — about 1388 53 28 |
| Family with Ida von Asseln |
| himself |
Rave XVII von Papenheim-Kugelnburg Birth: estimated as inline with profession (Occu. in FTW) — about 1335 25 25 |
| wife |
Ida von Asseln Birth: estimated as prior to marriage by 25 years — about 1345 33 33 |
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Marriage: about 1370 — |
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5 years daughter |
Grete von Papenheim Birth: parentage assigned based on name, date, and place, DoB estimated a s a 25 year gap — about 1374 39 29 — Papenheim, Warburg, Westfalen, Germany |