n von Papenheim1209–
- Name
- n von Papenheim
| Birth | estimated as equal to husband's birth year about 1209 |
| Birth of a daughter #1 | n von Spiegel about 1234 (Age 25 years) |
| Alfred W. Generation |
| Family with Hermann von Spiegel |
| husband |
Hermann von Spiegel Birth: shown as Bef. 1675, assumed parentage, DoB estimated as after assume d parents marriage, — about 1209 |
| herself |
n von Papenheim Birth: estimated as equal to husband's birth year — about 1209 |
| daughter |
n von Spiegel Birth: estimated as equal to husband's birth year — about 1234 25 25 |